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I am planning on going ahead with the creation of a book. I have been in contact with a printer and am working on compiling pages, etc. It has been quite a process and I hope to share a bit of what I discovered.
Printing
For printing, I am going with a printing company that I can drive to (a fairly long drive, 1hr each way). I chose them for several reasons, one being shipping. The cost of shipping books is huge for me, if I can drive out and pick up the books myself, that is much better for me. Also, I can talk to someone face-to-face and get samples and get a better idea of what I am doing. I actually sent out quote requests to a few places in the same area and the representative from this printer was very very helpful, and so I decided to get it done with them. We actually arranged a meeting in person and discussed my idea before I had even settled on doing it. Plus I am supporting a local business which I feel is important.
I did research a lot of options when it came to printing. My first choice was an online printer, like blurb.ca. However, to get the shape I wanted (square) I needed to go up to a more expensive book, and then add shipping... it got pretty pricy. At first the online short run printing looked really good, but after some pricing and searching, it just didn't fit. If I was going to sell these books for any reasonable price, I would be loosing money. I also looked at offset printing, which has several advantages, including low cost per book. However, minimum run for offset printing is usually 750 books, no way did I think I was going to sell that many. Plus, despite the low cost per book, the upfront investment is quite steep (like, $4,000+). I looked at a China based company called printninja.com which would do offset runs as low as 250, but the prices still seemed too high (with shipping and exchange rates, etc). One nice thing about them was an automatic quote generator. It gave me a much better idea of what I was dealing with and let me see the cost effect of book size, paper, color vs b&w, etc.
Through this I discovered that short run is really for a particular audience. People who are willing to pay extra for a custom book. Either people doing photo books where they only print one or two, or companies printing promotional material, or things like yearbooks where people expect to pay a lot for them. It really doesn't lend itself to printing a small-ish run of books and selling them to the public. The cost-per-book is just too high. However, offset printing requires a huge leap of faith and upfront investment. This is where publishing companies come in, but I won't get into that.
My Process
This was quite the process for me because I like to know exactly what I am doing before I do it... but for this project there were just too many questions. I just had to start working on it and watch it unfold. My thoughts went something like this: I need a quote to decide if I will do the project, I need a page count and book size for a quote, I need to decide on layout to decide on book size and need to lay out pages to get the page count, I need to scan pages to lay them out... At any rate, I needed to start making the book before I could decide wether or not to make the book. And so I did.
I started with rough scanning all the pages and printing them ~1/4 size then cutting them up. I measured several books in my collection and decided 8"x8" was a good size. Then I laid out my pages approximately to scale in an old partly used sketchbook. This way I could tell how many pages I would have and also get a head start on the layout so I didn't have to decide how to lay things out on the computer. It really helped me organize what gryphons I wanted on each page.
Then I met with the printer to nail down some final questions, like margins, scan quality, paper, size, timing, etc. After that I started doing better quality scans and cleaning. I scanned each drawing individually rather than scanning the whole page and I didn't let the scanner do any auto adjustment because I wanted to do it myself. Then I worked to clean the scans to the best of my ability, making the paper white, trying to preserve pencil sketches, darkening ink, etc. There might have been a better or faster way to do it, but that is how I did it. I ended up with 235 individual scans.
Currently
Now I am working on compiling individual pages. The printer told me that 8.5"x11" would be almost the same cost as 8"x8" because they had to cut them. He said I could do 8.5"x8.5" and should leave 0.5" blank space on the inside of each page for the spine (I am going with perfect binding). I setup right and left page templates in Gimp with guides for the inside edge and have been referring to my cut-and-paste layout to place the gryphons.
I hope to have them done for the summer so I can sell them locally. I haven't put much thought into selling online yet because the idea of shipping scares me and it just complicates things at this point. So, if the book gets made, and I sell some, I may consider shipping some.
Some of the details:
8.5"x8.5" perfect bound softcover
Black and white printing (most of the drawings are black and white)
100 copies for $1731 + tax CAD
~100 pages
There are a bunch more things bouncing around my head, but perhaps I will leave those for another journal entry. Comments and questions welcome.
Printing
For printing, I am going with a printing company that I can drive to (a fairly long drive, 1hr each way). I chose them for several reasons, one being shipping. The cost of shipping books is huge for me, if I can drive out and pick up the books myself, that is much better for me. Also, I can talk to someone face-to-face and get samples and get a better idea of what I am doing. I actually sent out quote requests to a few places in the same area and the representative from this printer was very very helpful, and so I decided to get it done with them. We actually arranged a meeting in person and discussed my idea before I had even settled on doing it. Plus I am supporting a local business which I feel is important.
I did research a lot of options when it came to printing. My first choice was an online printer, like blurb.ca. However, to get the shape I wanted (square) I needed to go up to a more expensive book, and then add shipping... it got pretty pricy. At first the online short run printing looked really good, but after some pricing and searching, it just didn't fit. If I was going to sell these books for any reasonable price, I would be loosing money. I also looked at offset printing, which has several advantages, including low cost per book. However, minimum run for offset printing is usually 750 books, no way did I think I was going to sell that many. Plus, despite the low cost per book, the upfront investment is quite steep (like, $4,000+). I looked at a China based company called printninja.com which would do offset runs as low as 250, but the prices still seemed too high (with shipping and exchange rates, etc). One nice thing about them was an automatic quote generator. It gave me a much better idea of what I was dealing with and let me see the cost effect of book size, paper, color vs b&w, etc.
Through this I discovered that short run is really for a particular audience. People who are willing to pay extra for a custom book. Either people doing photo books where they only print one or two, or companies printing promotional material, or things like yearbooks where people expect to pay a lot for them. It really doesn't lend itself to printing a small-ish run of books and selling them to the public. The cost-per-book is just too high. However, offset printing requires a huge leap of faith and upfront investment. This is where publishing companies come in, but I won't get into that.
My Process
This was quite the process for me because I like to know exactly what I am doing before I do it... but for this project there were just too many questions. I just had to start working on it and watch it unfold. My thoughts went something like this: I need a quote to decide if I will do the project, I need a page count and book size for a quote, I need to decide on layout to decide on book size and need to lay out pages to get the page count, I need to scan pages to lay them out... At any rate, I needed to start making the book before I could decide wether or not to make the book. And so I did.
I started with rough scanning all the pages and printing them ~1/4 size then cutting them up. I measured several books in my collection and decided 8"x8" was a good size. Then I laid out my pages approximately to scale in an old partly used sketchbook. This way I could tell how many pages I would have and also get a head start on the layout so I didn't have to decide how to lay things out on the computer. It really helped me organize what gryphons I wanted on each page.
Then I met with the printer to nail down some final questions, like margins, scan quality, paper, size, timing, etc. After that I started doing better quality scans and cleaning. I scanned each drawing individually rather than scanning the whole page and I didn't let the scanner do any auto adjustment because I wanted to do it myself. Then I worked to clean the scans to the best of my ability, making the paper white, trying to preserve pencil sketches, darkening ink, etc. There might have been a better or faster way to do it, but that is how I did it. I ended up with 235 individual scans.
Currently
Now I am working on compiling individual pages. The printer told me that 8.5"x11" would be almost the same cost as 8"x8" because they had to cut them. He said I could do 8.5"x8.5" and should leave 0.5" blank space on the inside of each page for the spine (I am going with perfect binding). I setup right and left page templates in Gimp with guides for the inside edge and have been referring to my cut-and-paste layout to place the gryphons.
I hope to have them done for the summer so I can sell them locally. I haven't put much thought into selling online yet because the idea of shipping scares me and it just complicates things at this point. So, if the book gets made, and I sell some, I may consider shipping some.
Some of the details:
8.5"x8.5" perfect bound softcover
Black and white printing (most of the drawings are black and white)
100 copies for $1731 + tax CAD
~100 pages
There are a bunch more things bouncing around my head, but perhaps I will leave those for another journal entry. Comments and questions welcome.
October 2020
It is that time of year again, daily ink drawings! This year 'InkTober' is a tricky subject for a number of reasons. I still believe in the concept, the essence of it, and don't want to get into the politics (although I do wish more people understood copyright and trademark rules, some pretty severe misconceptions floating around). I do plan to tag my posts with #inktober for visibility. So yes, I am doing an inking challenge again this year. Since Nova Scotia birds were so much fun last year, I am going to repeat that topic. Ink one NS bird on every day of October Share on social media! (hopefully every day) I plan to only use my own photos for reference and will stick to birds I have seen in Nova Scotia, maybe specifically birds I have seen in 2020!
InkTober 2019
It is that time of year again. This year I am aiming to do 31 inky birds. I will base them on my own photos and hopefully manage to upload them every day (or I might upload a few at once). What is InkTober you may ask? A popular drawing marathon in October. Here are the 'rules':
1) Make a drawing in ink (you can do a pencil under-drawing if you want).
2) Post it (Post it on any social media account you want or just post it on your refrigerator. The point is to share your art with someone.)
3) Hashtag it with #inktober and #inktober2019
4) Repeat
For every day of October.
This will be my... 5th year doing InkTober. My first year actually
Hello 2019
Okay, I'm not much for new years resolutions, but this year I have decided to try it. Actually, I am going to focus on a word:
Create
I resolve to create and share more, with the focus being on creating. Be it creating art, photos, writing, music, etc. Rather than just sitting around consuming (which is so easy these days) I want to get up and make things, do things, accomplish things.
Easier said then done. So far I have identified two things that I want to do this year:
- Draw more substantial artwork
- Participate in the PhotoChallenge every week
When it comes to art, most of mine is done in one sitting. I draw, detail and ink sket
InkTober 2018
It is that time of year again, where I try to draw every day and end up staying up late finishing. Where inking becomes necessary rather than just nice. Where I break out my brush pens and liners and have to photograph or scan stuff every night. October is coming... InkTober is coming!
Official rules:
1) Make a drawing in ink (you can do a pencil under-drawing if you want).
2) Post it (facebook, twitter and DA in my case)
3) Hashtag it with #inktober and #inktober2018
4) Repeat
This year I am thinking of following the official prompt list, with Pokemon! If not, I will at least be doing an ink drawing each day. I may not actually po
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It looks like you've come across the same challenges and decisions I've faced in printing my 2 books. Here's some hopefully helpful insight from my own experience:
Deciding between short-run digital press versus offset is a huge headache. It really depends on the project. For my College Catastrophe book (black and white, A5, 128 pages), I went with offset (500 copies) and that worked out okay. For Swords and Sausages (full color, A4, 162 pages), I initially went with digital press (200 copies) since I was running low on cash. Then for the second printing, I made the investment in an offset run. In hindsight, I wish I'd saved up for an offset run from the beginning, because with digital press, as you've figured, the profit margins are very slim. The trick to stomaching an offset run is to calculate the sale price and see how many sales are needed before you break even, covering the upfront investment. It's actually not as many as you think
As far as quality goes, digital press has been getting much better, but still trails slightly behind offset, especially when dealing with subtle gradations of color (if I gave offset a quality score of 10/10, digital press would be 8.5/10). My digital press books came out a bit too saturated and there were banding problems. For the offset books, I was fortunate enough to have a local printer who could work with me to create the hard proofs in person (I went over to their factory to do this). 100% worth it, since I could adjust things until they came out right. So you're on the right track, being in touch with a local printer.
It depends on the printer, but you might want to put your page layouts (templates) into a proper layout software, such as Adobe InDesign or Scribus (free). Scribus is easy to learn; just follow the tutorials. I did both of my books in Scribus as the printer required me to submit CMYK PDF files.
Shipping is a whole other ball game The biggest hurdle for me was not the postage (though it was quite painful) but trying to find proper packaging materials to protect the books! If you have a Staples or Office Depot nearby, you should be good to go. I only have woefully small corner stationery stores to go by, and they frequently didn't have large envelopes in stock, and rigid envelopes are somehow non-existent in this part of the world. Develop a procedure for mailing (print out shipping labels, wrap the book in bubble wrap, insert into envelope and tape it up, fill out postal forms, etc.) and that'll save you lots of time. I must've spent 25 minutes preparing each book for shipment when I started, and after optimizing the process, I got it down to 5
Anyway, I look forward to seeing how your project turns out Good luck!
Deciding between short-run digital press versus offset is a huge headache. It really depends on the project. For my College Catastrophe book (black and white, A5, 128 pages), I went with offset (500 copies) and that worked out okay. For Swords and Sausages (full color, A4, 162 pages), I initially went with digital press (200 copies) since I was running low on cash. Then for the second printing, I made the investment in an offset run. In hindsight, I wish I'd saved up for an offset run from the beginning, because with digital press, as you've figured, the profit margins are very slim. The trick to stomaching an offset run is to calculate the sale price and see how many sales are needed before you break even, covering the upfront investment. It's actually not as many as you think
As far as quality goes, digital press has been getting much better, but still trails slightly behind offset, especially when dealing with subtle gradations of color (if I gave offset a quality score of 10/10, digital press would be 8.5/10). My digital press books came out a bit too saturated and there were banding problems. For the offset books, I was fortunate enough to have a local printer who could work with me to create the hard proofs in person (I went over to their factory to do this). 100% worth it, since I could adjust things until they came out right. So you're on the right track, being in touch with a local printer.
It depends on the printer, but you might want to put your page layouts (templates) into a proper layout software, such as Adobe InDesign or Scribus (free). Scribus is easy to learn; just follow the tutorials. I did both of my books in Scribus as the printer required me to submit CMYK PDF files.
Shipping is a whole other ball game The biggest hurdle for me was not the postage (though it was quite painful) but trying to find proper packaging materials to protect the books! If you have a Staples or Office Depot nearby, you should be good to go. I only have woefully small corner stationery stores to go by, and they frequently didn't have large envelopes in stock, and rigid envelopes are somehow non-existent in this part of the world. Develop a procedure for mailing (print out shipping labels, wrap the book in bubble wrap, insert into envelope and tape it up, fill out postal forms, etc.) and that'll save you lots of time. I must've spent 25 minutes preparing each book for shipment when I started, and after optimizing the process, I got it down to 5
Anyway, I look forward to seeing how your project turns out Good luck!